Frightday: Episode 281: Honeydew / Diana "Curio" Napolis (2025)

May 18, 2021

This week Love Has Won, we talk a late 90s/early 2000s onlineSatanic panic, & talk red meat, dairy, and AAA, as we reviewDevereux Milburn's,'Honeydew'.

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It's so scary.

Sometimes I'm almost certain. You're putting your microphone ina bag of pretzels.

you're unsure. Are you sitting in a dark room? Maybe? Okay. Allright.

Are you ready? I'm kind of waiting for you to quit eatingpretzels.

It is FrightdayI was going to say energy is real weird, right? It's a song. I'myour host. Byron Byron Byron Byron road trips are supposed to be abreak from routine, a breath of fresh air, time to reflect andclear your head. But new roads can only do so much when you findyourself camping on private property, unable to leave whenrequested, because your battery is dead to boot.

Could it get any worse? Yeah. And we'll talk about it tonight.As we review Devereaux milburn's honeydew and in the late ninetiesand early 2000 thousands, while I was using the internet to chatwith crushes on errands and messenger, and to download individualtracks off the mission, impossible to soundtrack, a Californiasocial worker was harassing celebrities, publicly accusing them ofsatanic ritual abuse.

That sounds kind of familiar. It's Diane Annapolis in thisweek's edition of Kelly's cryptids and conspiracies I'm joinedtonight by Kelly and Sam can't make it because he went upstairs toeat some meat, carnivorous that one Kelly. Did you know that loveis one, no, Byron we've talked about, we have talked aboutthis.

You're not allowed. Why do you, what do you mean I'm? Uh, I am,uh, intrigued. Yeah. I, I'm not arguing that following the death ofthe leader of the love has one call to last week when they, uh,authorities did stumble into a back room of a double wide trailerin Crestone, Colorado, where they found, uh, I would say it's ashrine with the leader.

Amy Carlson's uh, well, she goes by mother, got her mama G toher followers. She went by, well, Kelly, I don't know she'sascended. It doesn't mean she has Shea pet. Apparently. I'm notsure I've been, I've been following this. Pretty closely becausethe state of her body was quite interesting. She'd been gone forover two months, I believe.

Oh, is that all that didn't seem that long tucked in a sleepingbag in a shrine room wrapped in a rainbow Christmas lights. I mean,her eyes were gone, but the sockets were full of a glitter,glitter. What color was the glitter I've been meaning to ask?Probably rainbow. I'm been watching this called is still streamingdaily.

Sometimes twice daily on YouTube they're members. They're notpulling back from their love of Christmas lights in the backgroundof all their videos or strings of Christmas lights. And I'm like,Oh right. If you guys really want to lean into that, I have been.Communicating with them, trying to see if there's anyone left inthe Crestone Colorado area.

But most of the people I'm talking to her from Australia, someof them are based in South Africa, but yeah, mama G's dad, veryshe's ascended and a five, the full disclosure is going to happenat some point. When does that happen? I'm unsure, but the train hasno brakes is what they're saying right now.

They often say that it's something upwards of 20 full-timemembers and they call themselves the first contact ground crewteam. They're a family of light beings living on earth in divinevibration, unity consciousness, Christ consciousness, a constantstate of bliss, joy, peace, and love. Never been a fan of the wholeChrist consciousness thing.

Yeah. They talk a lot about divine masculine and divinefeminine. And what's the masculine one. It's divine masculine.Isn't it is, it are the both divine could have swore that they haddifferent. Oh, I think you're right. It's yeah, the divine feminineand the, I don't remember. You've been out of the Buddhist businessfor that ship, my brain.

Yeah. But, um, yeah, fully immersed in this for some reason. Andwith the, uh, the Florida trip canceled, I don't know. I just mightend up in Crestone, Colorado. Okay. So being real Byron yes. Noflat out we bought absolutely positively. No. Well, I mean, Theymight know something too about this whole COVID stuff.

They're kind of Grifters as well. They sell like new ageproducts on their live streams, as well as trying to get people todonate money to them. But they think mama G might've died. Not,they, they probably think she ascended because it was her time.But, uh, she had been taking mass quantities of colloidalsilver.

Sam was mumbling about that. Was he reading the article andgetting frustrated about the whole colloidal silver. That's apretty common thing within the new age and even Q Anon communities.That was, that was the thing that Alex Jones actually got introuble for it earlier this week, the FTC and FDA issued warningsto seven companies accused of selling unapproved or misbrandedproducts claiming they can treat or cure COVID-19 with teas,essential oils and colloidal silver.

Televangelist Jim Bakker received one such warning for offeringan $80 silver solution. He advertised as a treatment for Coronavirus and conspiracy theorist. Alex Jones received a cease anddesist letter for Hawking unproven products from New York, attorneygeneral Latisha James, one of several she and other Statesattorneys general have issued in recent days to people they say areselling unproven products.

He was selling a wound gel and a mouth gargle at the beginningof the COVID pandemic. And he got in trouble because there's noevidence that colloidal silver does anything. It does improveactually wounds. There was an extra journals. Not internally. Don'tput colloidal silver inside your body. No, no, not, not good.

Unless of course it's Friday brand colloidalsilver@shopthatfriday.com. But I don't know where this is going togo. This woman though. W internally interesting. Amy, apparently 9billion years old. I didn't know. You could be that old. Sheclaimed to have been reincarnated 534 times 534. Yeah. Okay. Howdoes somebody even come up with that number?

Don't know if it makes sense. Creative. She was Jesus. At onepoint, Joan of arc Marilyn Monroe Cleopatra. Her whole goal was tolead 144,000 people into the fifth dimension, which is still thegoal of the remaining members that I talked to you on a dailybasis. Any remaining members do we have to 20 they're very activegroups of 20.

I mean, there's a handful of them. Work ethic is kind ofincredible. Considering there are a bunch of burnout's living inlike double-wide trailers in the middle of communities in Coloradoand Australia, but yes, she also believes that Donald Trump was herfather and has spoken to the spirit of. Robin Williams has Trumpspoken to this?

Why would he deny anything? All press is good press to Damitrifucking asshole. Why can't he just Donnie D and mama G hanging outbecause she's the daughter of Donald Trump. I will continue tofollow the story. Unfortunately, for you Kelly, today, theyofficially the seven members in Crestone who, uh, did get arrestedwhen the body was found, because they were charged with abuse of acorpse.

And I believe child abuse as well, because a handful of theresidents in Crestone, some of the seven had children and one ofthe daughters was like, 13 body was still in the house when she wasthere. Not chill. That's not really cool. No, that's actually quitehorrific. That's something that's going to stick with a child, butdon't like it reporting for reporting life one.

Who knows where I'll be next week. Well, there's no reason foryou to go. Everybody's gone. Some of them are out on bond. I willdig into that later today because they, they did have an appearancein court today. I mean, the maximum sentence for abuse of a corpseis only 18 months. Kelly. That's not that bad, but it means that Ihave 18 minutes to talk you out of going down there, at least, Idon't know if they're going to want to talk to me.

The Australian ones think I'm pretty all right, but theAustralian ones, well it's because Australians are just too nice.I'm just unsure if there's anyone left down there. So maybe ifthere's not, then I won't be there. But I do know a lot ofconcerned citizens in the area are contacting authorities becausethey fear that the residents of Crestone it's like less than 150people live in Crestone, Colorado family members are concerned thatmore people were involved in the cult than are being reported.

I mean, vice has done documentaries about this and this leader,this woman, mama G mother God, Amy Carlson. She was on the Dr. Philshow last year. Wait, growing up. My sister, Amy was very sweet.She got good grades. Amy didn't show any signs of acting different.Amy was married three times. By the time she was in her earlytwenties.

Amy had three children with three different dads. After herthird child was born. Amy became very distant. She did neglect herchild. Okay. Around 2006, she started acting strangely. Amy hasbounced around from different States. She started calling herselfmother God, and she believed that she was God. My sister is runninga Colt with a bunch of followers in Hawaii.

She has been in charge of a group called love has one. Shebelieves that she has. Ben sent here to save the world no matterwhat happens to me, I will still stand for, well, I commanded allmy atoms to come home back in the light. All of Amy's followersreferred to her as mom or mama, mom out Julio main thing ismagical.

I believe that Amy is scamming all of her followers. She haspeople buy stuff for her and send her gifts. Your contract is to beconscious. So having the unconscious is saying I'm failing mycontract mother as one puts out daily live streams every day on allthe videos she is screaming. She is pursing.

She is demanding people to do what she asks my own workers,serving lab. And bringing in a new paradigm cores, Amy calls,anyone who has a non-believer horse and retaught seriously. Okay. Ididn't know that. I figured that she was like fully off everybody'sradar and just some random what. Okay. So we've got another personthat we can blame the downfall of on Dr.

Phil. Can we talk about what she said to Dr. Phil on the Dr.Phil? She said that she fully remembers being hanged on the crossas Jesus, huh? Yeah. So this was back in 2020. Did she have anyreason for why she's been reincarnated as all these verysignificant people? And yet this time came as basically a, no one,probably because she's a sociopathic grifter.

She'd bring a peace to the planet. They're pretty positive, butI mean, minus like the whole. Dying and, uh, letting your kids hangout with dead bodies. Well, that was all out of her hand. She died.Like she didn't, she didn't do that. She's deceased, so, yeah, butshe knew what they were going to do with her after she died.

I'm unsure. I don't think she anticipated dying at the age. Inher fifties. She just kept fucking chug and silver. I would love totalk more about this. Why is this not a behind the screams episode?Like I can't talk so much behind this. No, we can't do that, but Imean, thank you guys for adulting me, honestly, as long as I havesome time to keep you away from there, I'm fine.

It's like, we just need to make sure you weren't headed downthere. Right? Is someone coming to my house right now? Kelly? Noteven kidding you. I Shinoa was just here. We talked about how sheneeds to check in with you and drive by your house and make sureyou're still Kelly. We got to get to work. These DVD copies ofgoodbye Lennon.

Aren't going to put themselves away. Oh, I don't know that one.It's time for staffing.

Straight ahead. I got to get staff pick for tonight. So tell meabout your staff. Pick. You sound excited. I am excited. So Byron,you know that I am a little bit weird with the types of horror thatI like. And sometimes it gets a little bit controversial becausepeople get angry at me that I don't like the same things.

Yeah. Keep saying, let's watch pupil. Let's watch puke porn. Youkeep chanting it. And I say, well, I'm not watching that stuff,porn. You're always telling me that's your shit. I hate that. It'salways simulated snuff films with you. And I just cannot get it. Ican't, I can't get down. Yes. Not having it. Okay.

What I am having, it is a rare occasion that we watch a bodyhorror that I really like one such occasion was this week. I thinkit kind of counts as a body. Or do you think, I mean, I thinktransformation, I feel like it's body horror. People are having.Well, and well, I guess I, you know, that is something that we'regoing to talk about in a little bit.

Okay. We're going to talk about it in a little bit, but themovie we watched for this week was about New York. The last time Iremember enjoying a body horror this much was when we watched amovie called tusk hotline tomorrow for the podcast. It's what I do.I travel around and I interview weird or interesting people.

So look at you. Crazy Canucks wandering Wallace takes a raunchyroad trip up to the great white North. Hello. I am an old man whohas enjoyed a long and storied life at sea. And after ER, oceanicadventure. I know, I do not wish to spend my remaining years alonewhile I have some stories to share by frost.

From here. It's a boot two hours from here. It's a boot twohours away. Hate American guys. Good evening. Nice to meet you.Could I interest you in some tea? So what happened after the boatsank? I was alone and then something very Swift and frighteningmove by me. A walrus saves your life. The walrus is far moreevolved than any man I've ever known.

Present company included. Thank you. You're welcome.

All right, Mr.

Rooney morning, your humanity. I don't understand the hell. Wantto be human

so here we are. The film. We talked about a couple of weeks ago.Now you're giving it a fish. Remember I was talking about red stateand he said, you like tusk more. And then we talked a little bitabout Tuscan. Can you said you wanted to revisit it? So here weare, we're revisiting it. Okay. Well you need to get moreasleep.

You got it? No, I just don't remember anything also, by the way,I think yellow veil might be the new age, 24, but we'll have thatdiscussion later too. No, they're good. They're they're art house,but they're not a, I didn't realize how much they have done. That'sreally good. I love the elevator I talked about.

Oh my God. You really don't remember anything. Do you? Iremember nothing. So there are a few things about tests that makeit spectacular. One of them is that Hailey has Justin Long, who isreally spectacular. Nice guy. If you listened to his podcast, hejust seems really great. Haley Joel Osment, which, you know, I.

A weird role for him, but I like him in it. Um, it's about theonly thing Kevin Smith has ever done that I like really. Okay. Ifelt like the odd person out because I really never loved his oldlike clerks and stuff. There's just something like semi doucheyabout it to me, that just never sat well. And I know I'm upsettingpeople because I realize those were wildly popular apologize, but Idon't think it's saying anything.

People don't already know, but he's like a, an Indy brofilmmaker. Man children from the late nineties in the latenineties, I should have liked this shit. I mean, every characterthat Kevin Smith has written is basically himself. I'm not sayinghe's not afraid, which maybe is why you don't like his charactersvery much, except in tusk.

Now I feel this week is a particularly good time to bring it up.Not only because we watched a body horror this week, and this is abody hoard that is similarly spectacular, but it has the greatestcameo ever in a movie. And because of current news, I feel like Ican once again talk about him current news, because Johnny Depp isabout to be exonerated.

Okay. I mean, I do understand that Amber heard stuff. Her caseagainst him is starting to crumble a little bit. It is crumbling alot of, particularly because of some body cam footage that showsher descriptions, which led to his losing the case across the pondwere. Erroneous, but, but I'm not saying he's a good guy.

Still he's very troubling. He may still be a bad guy, but itisn't, the coffin is not sealed as it may have appeared, thereforeyou're out of control. So I think we can talk about how great he isin tusk, because honestly that role is one of the greatest rolesever. This movie is spectacular. Michael Parks is amazing.

Yeah. Everything about this movie is great. And I liked it whenwe watched it. The more I read about it, the more I think about it,the more time passes. I have to say buyer. And then in all of ouryears of doing this podcast, it is one of my greatest memories.Like my happiest, most positive memories is watching thatmovie.

Well, yeah, it was way back in 2014, we were just fucking luck.That's episode four of the podcast. So if you want one of the, ifyou want to listen to that, you gotta be a member of the Fridaysociety. So go check that out@acultthatfriday.com, but I justabsolutely love it. And I think that it'd be a good doublefeature.

I would watch tonight's movie honeydew first and then I'd watchtusk just because tusk has a little bit of a lighter air to it. Iactually, I actually think that it is an interesting pairing. Ithink that could work. Okay. Good. Well, I'm glad that you for onceare admitting that I am right now. I would like to hear what.

Your pick this week is boss. Oh, this is going to be kind ofdisappointing. It's uh, you know, Kelly it's road trip season. Ohno. Everyone around the country getting in their cars, heading toCrestone Colorado in tonight's film. No, you're not allowedfeatures a little road trip, not a big one. So I thought I'd do ablind wreck of a 1982 film that I haven't seen directed by a guynamed Dick Richards, which I looked at it.

His name is not Richard Richards and it's not short for, youknow, that's just mean who does that to their child don't know, butthis guy directed a little film called death Valley. Things arevery quiet in death Valley these days. In fact, you can go formiles without a spotting of cards. However, if your patientsomething or somebody is bound to turn up, take this lovingcouple.

For instance, I wouldn't get too fond of them. If I were you.Because they won't be around very long,

but pity, they seem so nice.

This is Billy. He has a big problem for such a littleperson.

He can identify the killer and the killer kind of identified.Billy. Never heard of it. Hold on. Does this have, wait a second,uh, New York, this has shoot your eye out and it doesn't it. A NewYork boy played by Peter Billingsley finds dead bodies. I'm noteven kidding you. I'm not even kidding you. When you said road tripseason.

My brain immediately said in my head, in my head, I said, Iwished that there was some way to record the voice in my head,because I just said in my head next week, I'm totally playing offof this. And I'm going to do that. Peter Billingsley one where theevil truck drivers chasing. Here we go. Peter Billingsley in NewYork board finds dead bodies.

When he goes West to visit his mother and her boyfriend, Kellyyachts, a cowboy slasher. Oh my God. I've never seen it. I can'tbelieve you've watched this. I haven't. I said it's a blind wreckthat I haven't seen, but, Oh, sorry. It's great. You have seenthis? I have seen, I mean, honestly it was probably 20 years cameout in 82, so yeah, it must have felt pretty fresh.

Do you have any feelings? I wasn't even alive in 82, so fuck yousure. It's Billingsley. That's all you need to say. Christmasstory. Shoot your eye out. It's a lots of folks. So it's Matt, whoof course came to prominence with his role in American graffiti. WeCatherine hips. Of course she was on seventh heaven.

That TV show with that sexual predator. I can't remember hisname. We don't need to talk about him. The dad in seventh heavenwas like a pedophile. You didn't know that. Hmm. All right. Uh,that the father in the TV show seventh heaven, the WB show, wereally don't need it. Never watched that. I don't Dawson'sgirl.

I mean, yeah, it was more done. All right. So, uh, it's got ayoung Stephen McHattie way back in 1982. Oh, that's cool. And thena diabetes testing supplies, salesmen, Wilford, Brimley as thesheriff. Oh, I love him. I've always, really liked him. Got towatch this thing. Have not seen it, but yeah, I love a good roadmovie.

I love a serial killer, so I will, uh, I'll tackle this. Maybea, watch it while driving. I do look to go don't no, no, no stop.You actually can't do that, right. Oh my God. I'm just so glad youpicked something that I actually liked for one second. Well, Imean, I'm glad to hear that. I'm actually nervous now. I don't knowif it's a good movie.

I don't know if I should have done this. Got different tastes,but that's okay. Because it's closing time, which means it'sbeginning time for your second year. It is. And tonight's funbecause we're doing another switcheroo, a bit of a switch, or thisis a topic that I would most likely have covered catching the ball,running with it.

Not sure if I'm running to the right end of the field or not. Inthis week's edition of Kelly's crypt. Well, I just, what are wecalling this kid? Kelly's a serial corner. It's certainly coronaryconspiracy in this week's edition of Kelly.

You guys, this one's a really weird one. Um, what's interestingis the movie we watched this week. I felt like we could have gone alot of interesting directions on wide open. It's an easy sixdegrees of all sorts of weird shit honeydew is, but some of thedirections that were potential or things that we've at least mildlycovered in the past.

And I thought, you know, I'm going to go a really randomdirection instead. And I may not even really reveal what theconnection is until the end of the episode. Okay. That's fun. Ilike that. Okay. So as you have heard us rattle on about, for quiteawhile now, and Byron has spent way too many hours digging way toodeep with Kristen, we have witnessed firsthand.

What kind of power is wielded by people appealing to the horror?Of child abuse. Yeah. If you ask most people, what crime is worsethan murder almost all the time, you will hear sexual abuse ofchildren, which I can't disagree with. Like, I would agree withthat, but because there's just such an overwhelmingly emotional,visceral reaction to that, it has been used by cue.

And it turns out by many others in the past to create somepretty crazy shit and manipulate people's emotions in some reallyweird directions. We are not talking about it tonight, but WestMemphis, three Byron, I feel like at some point that's somethingyou really should cover. Definitely. Seals feels like yourdeal.

Yes, absolutely. Just the satanic panic in general. Byron, haveyou ever actually read Michelle? Remember? No, I have a copy of itthough. Remember I bought it after my Satanism episode. I did lastyear. Right. Okay. So I think we should probably cover that at somepoint too, as it was digging down that hole.

Are we talking passenger today? No, we're talking Curio. Byron,how familiar are you with curious, not well-versed Karen CurioJones, which is a pseudonym that was often shortened to just Curiowhen, after a bunny people online in the nineties, accusing them ofsexual satanic child abuse sounds very familiar, right?

In this case, what she did is she started going after some verynormal humans. So we've got Carol Hopkins, who's a schooladministrator. She actually ended up moving to Mexico to escapecurios, crazy accusations. But even that didn't work because Curiocontacted her neighbors in Mexico and the government ended upthreatening to like revoke her visa.

It was horrible. She could not get away from him. The situationCurio learned Spanish yet, Curio was just relentless. She also wentafter a gentleman named Michael Aquino Aquino. Uh, he had a reallygood chunk of interview during that devil worship, exposing Satan'sunderground Geraldo Rivera thing. He was a member of the military,but also a member of the church of Satan.

No, no back up temple of set, very different things. Well, Iknow Dr. the highpriest of the church upset temple upset, temple upset, also aColonel, interestingly enough, in the United States army, what isit? The Satanism? I think that, um, uh, there is some confusiontonight because this same term means something different toSatanists than it does to Christians in the United States, by ourown standards.

The people who use Shaun in these film clips would not beSatanists, either present or in the past, rather they would be. Thefailures of a conventional religion. I appreciate your opinion. Whydoes it serve that? What is Satanism? Well, originally the churchof Satan, when it was founded was composed not of people with ahatred for Christianity, but of people who by and large wereagnostics and atheists because they felt that the institutionswhich had arisen around Christianity had failed in their moralcommitment.

So Satanism itself became an emphasis on rational self-interestand on taking responsibility for your own intellectual ethicaldecisions. Rational. Self-interests you call it? Yes. Okay. SoByron, can you actually, cause I don't know enough to distinguishbetween the two. Can you do that for me? Like it, it, I believeit's a fracture of Anton church of Satan.

I believe they, they split apart in the mid seventies. So sameroot source. They're similar philosophy, obviously differences. Ifthey split, there's gotta be some differences, but yeah, we aren'ttalking like Satanism and Orthodox Christianity. Sure. We'retalking Pentecostal and, and, uh, she also went after ElizabethLoftus.

Who has done a great deal of research. Uh, she's a cognitivepsychologist expert on human memory. She has done a lot of work,dispelling repressed memories. So when a lot of stuff was happeningin the nineties with people saying that they remembered beingvictims of these horrible Colts and sexual abuse, when they werechildren, she kind of was at the forefront of saying, actually,it's pretty easy to coax kids into believing that this is true.

Not saying that the kids were lying, but saying that. Atherapist could fairly easily either intentionally orunintentionally lead them to believing that they had that kind of amemory. She's a professor at UC Irvine. She's super, super smart,but she went after this one. Wow. So to, to clarify the, the, thepeople who are part of the temple of set, they believe that set isthe one real God, which is, you know, set the Egyptian God ofdesert storms, disorder, violence, that, that kind of stuff.

But did you talk about his eyebrows? I did not. We should dothat. Have you seen them? No. Pull up a picture for you andthere'll be a to tell me, look at a picture. Um, well let's saythey look evil. Yeah. It's probably the best way to describe themevil. Yeah. I don't like evil. Oh, why, why would he do that?

That's kind of his look like you see trying to create photodevil horns with his eyebrows. Also definitely wearing blush lookat those rosy cheeks, but then look at all of those ribbons andthings on his jacket. He must have done a lot of stuff in thatmilitary. Yeah. Do you remember Jim Watkins in the queue into thestorm documentary, as it went on, he be gone that mustache it'skind of the same thing.

It seems like. And I eyebrow as much as they don't like todefend Jim, it's much more normal to do that with a mustache thanit is to do it with your eyebrow. Jim Watkins did something withhis eyebrows to look more menacing as well, but it feels like athousand years. Yeah. I kind of want to flush that for my brain andnever think about it again.

Yeah, me too. But Michael's a, he's an eccentric, I think it'simportant to mention that Akina. Wasn't just part of the temple ofset. He was a high priest in the temple of set, so he had a prettysignificant role there. And according to what I understand, he wasactually a member of the military while he was in the temple ofset, but that was a private thing.

And there was some controversy when that came out. I don't thinkthat you should be judged by your religious, but, well, actually Itake that out unless, unless your religious beliefs are likecausing harm to somebody which. Some of them definitely do WestboroBaptist church. Those people should never have any idea.

I think they're on the outs, but also like people like Ted Cruzwho use their religious beliefs to govern a state. Right, right.Yeah. Like our governor of Aquino was saying we are or are notmaking this military decision based upon the God set then. Okay.We've got some problems for sure. But I don't think that was thecase.

Anyhow, if you listen to Curio, according to her, the reason heleft the military was because he was being investigated for childmolestation, which there of course is absolutely no evidence of,but she went after and started defaming all of these people. Okay.She also went after a newspaper reporter in San Diego.

These people there's really no way to defend yourself. It's oneof those things where once somebody calls you a child molester andeven make some people believe that this could be true, it's likeirreversible. Your life is changed forever. No matter how much youcan defend yourself, there are people that will never see you thesame way, which is just one of those really shitty things, becauseof course, child molesters should absolutely be prosecuted to thefullest extent of the law, but it's the kind of accusation that,you know, accusing someone falsely of, I think should also carry apretty heavy sentence.

This is what Curio was going around doing. Now in the midst ofall of this, she's also gaining traction posting online, and all ofthese people were in the middle of this idea of repressed childhoodtrauma. And maybe I was a member of a sex cult, and I didn't knowit. And this was way back in the early two thousands or latenineties, early two thousands, nineties, early two thousands.

Shell Devereaux was one such woman. She started thinking, God,maybe this is what happened to me. I started researching it andrealized, no, no, no, no, this lady's fucking crazy. Everythingshe's saying doesn't make any sense. And I can see how people wouldgo along with this, but no, this isn't right. And so she startedengaging in some emails back and forth with Curio, really wanted tofigure out who the hell this was, was smart enough to trace IPaddresses and noticed that a series of there back and forth emails,Curio was sending from public computers at San Diego stateuniversity.

So she contacted the campus police and immediately after shesent one such response immediately after curious at one suchresponse, she alerted campus police and they caught her red handed.So to speak right after she was caught posting this reporter forthe San Diego Tribune, decided that he was going to publish thestory about it and say, this is who Curio is basically tryingto.

Not only clear his name, but clear the names of all these peopleand make it very clear that no, this isn't some brilliantgovernment operative. This is some moron crazy lady who is justthrowing around completely outlandish accusations that have nobearing in reality, which sounds strangely similar to Q also Curioand Q sound very similar.

Yeah. I mean, Isn't that weird. It feels very familiar. Yeah,sure. It seems like a topic that she would also be interested in.Oh God. Yes. Well, it's the same topic essentially. Q is justechoes of the satanic panic mixed in with a little blood liable. Ohyeah. I always go throw some antisemitic shit for good measure.

If you're a complete asshole, you got to have something Nazilike in there. Of course here's where people made a huge mistake.And in some ways, this reminds me of stories that you have toldabout serial killers. You know, there were 25 different points atwhich they should have been caught, but they weren't.

Once her identity was revealed. No charges were filed. Causeeverybody was like, Oh, she's just this harmless lady. She'sobviously got some mental illness. And we published in a newspaperwho she is like now she can't do us any more harm, whatever we'regood to go. Unfortunately, shortly after she was caught at SDSU,she began calling and threatening a new target.

Somebody a little bit more important. Mr. Steven Spielberg. Nowwho's this, uh, he created some really great flicks, like closeencounters of the third kind. I'm sure ITI big fan of aliens. Andhe's just coming right off the heels of the success of savingprivate Ryan in 1998. Just about to work on AI, artificialintelligence and minority report.

Are you eating? So I guess that's kind of important before Italk about what she said about Spielberg that we tell you exactlywho this woman is. Her real name was Diane Annapolis. She was bornin 1956. She was a social services worker. She worked as a childprotection, uh, individual from the mid eighties to 1996, andreally got caught up in the satanic panic rage that rolledthroughout that time period.

Now I also with at least a bit of empathy, you want to point outthat that was, you know, in her mid to late twenties. All signswould point to the fact that this woman does in fact suffer fromschizophrenia. And so my guess is there was an unfortunateconversion of her schizophrenia presenting itself as she wasworking in what I'm sure was a very horrifying job.

I would imagine those people see terrifying, awful things everyday, and it wouldn't be as much of a stretch for them to believe inritualistic, satanic child abuse, as it would be for somebody likeus, because they see terrible things that are done to kids all thetime. But kind of mixing that with unfortunate healthcircumstances.

I think that's probably where Curio was born. Yep. But again, sothey don't throw her in jail, they just kind of, what do they callit? What are the, what's the, what do the kids call it these days?When the DocStar they just doxed her stock stir. Okay. And then shestarted going after Steve Spielberg saying the following yourfriends, you can call them that she accused Steven Spielberg andhis wife.

Of being a part of a satanic cult that actually met in theirbasement and manipulated poor unsuspecting victims by plantingquote, soul catcher, microchips in their brains. She also said shehappened to be one of the victims, soul catcher, microchips. Andhow, how do you those in unclear, Oh, unclear, probably kidnappingher and hypnotizing her and sticking it in and then letting hergo.

Maybe I don't know, but in this microchip does what now? Well,it's, it is a way of controlling her. Apparently it controls heractions and her thoughts and captures her soul. Yeah. Even veryquickly realized that this was not okay. She was clearly unwell andhe took out a restraining order and actually had to make a formalstatement about the situation.

Should I feel like it is a little bit weird. So this wasSteven's statement. Hit me to state the obvious. I am not involvedwith any form of manipulating Ms. Nepalis, his mind or body throughremote technology or otherwise. Nice, good. Luckily, a judge agreedwith Steve that Diana actually posed a pretty serious threat, toldher she was not allowed to come within 150 meters of himundeterred.

However, Nepalis turned her attention to another celebrity.Jennifer Love Hewitt. Do you remember when she used to sing songinspiring too? And she was pretty good. And I know what you didlast summer. Was that her flick and it was her flaked when she waspretty good as a singer. Was she? Yeah. She's okay.

We'll play a track

in my head. She was awful though. No. Okay. She semi accosted Jlove at the Grammy's in 2002, you know, for love Hewitt fears. Herlife is in danger. Prosecutors in San Diego say a woman has beenthreatening to kill the actress extras. Mike Brian has theexclusive details and today's star justice report.

Jennifer Love Hewitt arrives at stars, steadily events, smiling,waving, never knowing that this woman wants to kill the actress.Her name is Diana Annapolis and only extra has learned of hergraphic threats on the life of the movie star at a San Diego radiostation where Napa is hit and pushed the stars.

Mom, trying to get to the celebrity and at the Latin Grammyawards, Annapolis made bizarre accusations streaming at love Hewittmurderer killer. This was on September 8th. And then the very nextday I tried to get into a premiere of her new movie, the tuxedo,which by claiming to be one of her friends.

And I find absolutely hilarious. We're talking about the, theJackie Chan film about a cab driver. He puts on a tuxedo andbecomes a black belt in a black tie, I guess. Oh boy. Yeah, thatsounds bad. Okay. I believe that the tuxedo has powers. Um, I wantto confirm that, but it's a tuxedo. It is a spy parody thatinvolves a special tuxedo that grants its wearer specialabilities.

Holy shit. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm glad I missed that one. Wow.Nepal is really went full walrus and started stocking the J lovepretty much constantly for the next few months. Court documentsobtained by extra detail, her terrifying messages, quote, personalnote to Jennifer Hewitt. I plan to kill you at the firstopportunity to do so and hope you die.

A tortuous death. The woman brags, I plan on firing a gun at herheart and not missing. This is really a death threat. I want you toreport it to the police or FBI, because this is an internet crimemaking multiple death threats, and even had one incident thatresulted in a physical altercation between Love's mama and Curioherself.

Now, Nepal is obviously believed that love belonged to the samecult as Steve and, uh, Steven. That would be well, we know you guysare close friends, still believed that they were using cyber Tronictechnology to control her body and mind. Really sad, but finallyshe was arrested. So this is, you could mess with militarypeople.

You can mess with journalists. You can mess with school.Administrators can even mess with Spielberg, but you cannot fuckwith J love. Apparently, at least in 2000 to 2010, she wasarrested. She spent five months at a state psychiatric facility.Oh. So she wasn't arrested. She was, what do they call thatvoluntarily jail.

She was committed. Yeah. Um, and then seven months in jailawaiting trial, she pled guilty to stalking and was released onprobation, bad choices. Here were the conditions of her probation.She could not own any weapons makes sense. Had to enroll in acounseling program. Also makes sense. Forced enrollment in mentalhealth treatment is.

It doesn't obviously not super successful. Yeah. She hadrefrained from using all drugs and alcohol except had to continuetaking the medication that was prescribed. That's good. She couldnot contact J love or Steven or their families for 10 years. Andshe was not allowed to use computer backup, which, you know,thinking about that in 2002, it was a pretty big statement.

Can you imagine somebody now getting the order, like you're notallowed to use computers in 2002, they had no idea that what thesituation would be now, like your phone is a computer. Right. Andalso I want to point out that she could legally contact StevenSpielberg right now. And Jennifer, I'm going to say as of 2013,she's been able to contact them.

So I hope they're doing it. Yeah. Technically Kelly, legally,you can contact Steven Spielberg right now. That doesn't meanyou're able to do it, but I guess that is true. I mean, you'relegally able to contact most people, so. Unfortunately, no policiesslash curios madness did not stop here. In 2008, she made it veryclear that she was not probably taking her medication and was notdoing well.

She filed the lawsuit and I don't know what attorney was.Enabling this, but she filed a lawsuit against all of thenon-famous people. She had attacked online in the early twothousands, along with the reporter and publisher of the San Diegounion Tribune, who ran the story about her being caught red-handedas Curio the complaint, accused the parties of negligence,defamation, conspiracy, to violate her rights of free speechinvasion of privacy, intentional infliction of emotional distressand victimization by non-lethal technology.

I believe this is directly in reference to this. She did includethe temple of set founder, Michael Aquino as well. She did one ofthe people that she was going after online in the early twothousands. Yeah, she went and she included all those people. Sheclaimed that after being discovered at SDSU and her identity beingreleased via the Tribune article, she was pursued by a queen andthe others until she was forced to send a fake death threat.

To Jay love so she could be arrested and therefore safe fromharm within a jail cell, because she was fearing for her life. Thiscult was out to kill her, according to her. All right, fake deathfriend in her complaint. She also claimed to have extensivedocumentation about the non-lethal technology. She referencedincluding voice to skull devices, voice synthesis, devices, remoteneuromonitoring psychotronics, electromagnetic devices and othernon-lethal technology.

It's so sad. It is really sad. Like the woman clearly is, is notwell. And here's what makes this such a terrible issue beyond justthe single instant. We all know that this theme of satanic childabuse is still running as rampant today, as it was when she wasarrested in the early two thousands. People who study Q Anon sayit's a virtual cult.

That pushes a baseless global conspiracy theory that a cabal ofSatan worshiping pedophiles, who traffic children are led byprominent Democrats and celebrities like Hillary Clinton and TomHanks. Oh, that's right now that's from, it said 20 years to getcontained. And it still hasn't because there are enough people thathave, you know, I think it's a combination of people that arementally ill and then people who are in a position where they'reready to latch onto an idea like this.

Yeah. Well, it's hard. It's so hard because child sextrafficking is a huge deal. So it's general sex trafficking, butlike, and I'm not trying to downplay this at all by saying it, butit's not as widespread as some would lead you to believe. And it,it vacuums in such a bad crowd because it's such a horrible thingthat people can't outright deny when an accusation comes tolight.

Right. Exactly. No one feels comfortable doing that because it'ssuch a horrific crime, like Q Anon. Once they got kicked off ofTwitter, like using the hashtags that everyone knows where we go,when we go all, everything like that, they started like latching onto the hashtag save the children movement because that's a hugetent pole issue within the cult.

The crazy conspiracy beliefs that have traced back, you know, tothe nineties and the satanic panic. Yeah. Here's the thing though.I think the worst part of all of this is actually the mental healthprofessionals that I would argue, take advantage of this situationand certainly fuel it. And really, if we go back to Michelleremembers, which was kind of like the origin point for the satanicpanic, so to speak really, that was her psychiatrist, psychologist,it's, she he's referred to as both, and I'm not sure which he was,but where supposedly under hypnosis, she found that she was abusedand then a satanic cult.

And that is where this really started. And that psychiatristtraveled around the country and really promoted the idea of all ofthese repressed memories. And that became a pretty big trend for alot of therapists. Well, yeah, you're talking about Lauren's pastorand he wrote, Michelle remembers several other books, but also, andhe married her.

Wow. Sorry. I totally forgot about that element. I just rememberin his later years it was, it was Lawrence pastor who talked topolice officers to inform them on what to look for at a crime scenethat could potentially point to it also being a, a satanic ritual.Exactly. They were given credibility and that's what helped itbecome a trend.

So people like Ellen Lachter, who was a therapist, she was oneof the people that propagated this bullshit. Her patient ended upkilling her eight year old autistic son in 2010, because lacqueredconvinced her that her son was doomed to a life of satanic sexualabuse at the hands of the father. You know, undoubtedly, the womanwho killed her son had some severe mental illness, right.

But when, when a person with mental illness goes to see a mentalhealth professional should get help with that illness. And insteadthat mental health professional. Convinces them of a crazy fuckingconspiracy theory that then pushes them in exactly the kind ofdirection a person like that needs to be saved from.

Yeah, God, it's so awful. Cause like even this conspiracy fromthe early two thousands just reminds me of things that havehappened in the past few years within Q Anon. Like I rememberstories of, uh, remember MMS miracle, mineral solution, basically ableach mixture. Some people were claiming it was a cure for autismand their parents were giving their autistic children enemas withthis mixed, shocking it's torture.

And it's, it's awful. Yeah. I mean that people who should beheld to the highest standard, I mean, You know, you and I havediscussions about this a lot. Like, unfortunately there are somereally wonderful therapists out there that are psychologists,right? But because the standard for becoming a psychologist is verydifferent than the standard for becoming a psychiatrist, thestandard, or becoming a therapist is even different.

You get a lot of people who are not necessarily as well, vettedand Holy shit, how scary is that? Like they're allowed to beworking with people at their most vulnerable points. And instead ofhelping them essentially exploiting them, Yeah, which is just thegrossest thing you can do, I think, but I run a CLI the temple ofset and the satanic church, or the church of Satan or whatever.

I don't know. I'm probably getting the framing wrong too.Patients have been kind of at the forefront of investigatingpsychiatric malpractice. So obviously they have a, a good reason todo so because these crazy fucking people are saying that it's theirfault. And they're at the helm of all of these terrible things thatare happening, but also there.

The beliefs within those organizations are very much abouttaking care of one's mind and one's body and autonomy and not beinga victim to other people. They have been very strong advocates. Andin fact, a few years ago, they started a petition to try and getthis particular woman Ellen Lachter, who had been directlyconnected to the death of that eight year old autistic boy to gether investigated and hopefully her license to work as a mentalhealth professional revoked.

Interestingly, I ended up on her website, which clearly itdidn't work because she's still got a website up. I don't even knowif I want to give the name of the website, cause I don't know. Iwant people to go there. I ended up on there and. Lo and behold,there are articles from Diane Annapolis on there.

So these people really do like, it's something that has beenlegitimized and given enough of a foundation that it really scaresme to think about how much it could potentially grow in the nextdecade or two decades. Wow. So yeah. Terrifying guys. Terrifying.Well, speaking of finding yourself on websites, I found myself onDiana's actual blog, her WordPress site, her last post wasHalloween of 2015 and it reads, continued news from an observer ofArmageddon, S P S P as previously mentioned in a prior post, therewas an asteroid or comment going by the name of office, which isthe Greek name for APAP, the Egyptian snake, dragon demon, andtoday's news.

There was a mention of an asteroid heading towards the earth,which bore the shape of a skull for an eerie Halloween fly bysource UK mirror. October 21st, 2015. What does that have to dowith, you know, I just found myself on her website. Oh, the way youphrase that, I thought literally you found yourself.

No, that was discussed on her website. I was like, what thefuck? That, that didn't know that wasn't that obviously taking yourmedicine? God sad. I really hope she's okay. And I hope that thereare people taking care of her. It is important to read up on someof the investigation and please by all means, go see a mentalhealth professional.

If you need one, just make sure to check their references, makesure they went to a credible place for, for school and make surethat what they're telling you doesn't feel completely misguided.You know, like it. Just because you're in a vulnerable position,doesn't mean that somebody won't try to take advantage of you.

So please everybody be careful. Get good mental health help,please. And can we please check up on Jennifer Love Hewitt? Cansomeone make sure she's okay. Yeah, please. Because it's beenapparently eight years that was able to be back in touchwith her now wrapping up full around Byron. Do you know why wetalked about this whole story today?

I do. Yeah. Oh, you do. You actually remember it. See, sometimesI feel like, I mean, I know you pay attention to more of what I saythan I pay attention to what you say, but I still feel like thepercentage is pretty far below a hundred. That's unfair, but yeah,I guess that's what I'll have to deal with you.

Do you think that's an unfair characterization? No, it's justwish you'd pay more attention to me. Oh, fair. Okay. Well it'sbecause. One of the two leads in our movie for this week, honeydewwas none other than a gentlemen named Sawyer who happens to be theoffspring of Mr. Steven Spielberg. And it was actually looking,trying to figure out exactly how old he is born in 1992, becausehe's born in 1992.

So he was just at the age. I mean, I'm just imagining when allthis shit was going down with naturalists that she's accusingSpielberg of satanic sex abuse at the time that Sawyer was about 10yeah. Prime sex abuse age. Yeah. So, you know, I could see whoknows, but I can imagine that her accusations may have includedthings about Sawyer himself.

Did you ever search their names together? I did. I tried tofind, but I think most of the stuff that she had posted at thatpoint is down just because of defamation and lawsuits and stuff.That makes sense. I don't know. You're a pretty. Damn goodresearchers. See if you can dig anything up, but in the meantime, Imean, yeah, I think we should talk about this week.

Sure. But I mean, we also didn't talk about that beautifulfootage that I got of her being gang stocked. They found on theinternet. Oh God. Yeah. But is it gangsta doctor? She justreporting on a weird fucking cloud. Sure. But I did find a YouTubepage, uh, with one video called evidence under her name and it iswild.

And it's in the show notes for this episode of friday.com.Kelly, thank you so much for that report. You did a great job andit's time to talk kind of like an okay. Byron, right? Like I didn'thave 12 pages of notes and I didn't have it all scripted, but itwasn't too bad. Right. Not enough notes, but we'll talk about thenotes that we have on a film as we review.

Honey, honey, honey, honey, honey.

we hope you're enjoying your visit here this evening now on withthe show honeydew. It's a 20, 20 American horror film written anddirected by Deveraux Millburn, starting Sawyer, Spielberg, MarlinDevereaux, like Michelle Devereaux. It's the first name though. So,uh, so your Spielberg, Marlin BARR and Barbara Kingsley, strangecravings and hallucinations before the young couple, after seekingshelter in the home, if an aging farmer and her peculiar son.

This Devereaux character pretty accomplished director started in2008. He graduated at a rather prestigious department at NYU. Yeah,I would say one of the most prestigious departments at one of themost prestigious schools. And that's what I would say at that time.Definitely shows. I think that his work is very visuallyinteresting, far more interesting than his bio on the website forhis production company, listing Devereaux.

Uh, B can write you a new bio, right? I don't know about that,but, uh, I just, I think when you dive into what you did as aten-year-old, I think the story of every filmmaker, at least in thegenre seems to be pretty much the same, but that's okay. I thinkthis movie does a great job of setting itself apart.

And I did click through one of the short films, one that. Ithink got a lot of attention in recent time. I believe in 2016called Wade. It's bizarre, little, 10 minutes short. I enjoyed itquite quite a bit, but yeah. Um, this film scheduled for premiereat the 2020 Tribeca film festival, but Kelly, guess what?

It's the year of shuttering COVID pandemic, but yeah, they haveit's premiere, uh, virtually at the night stream film festival inOctober of 2020, and then dark star pictures released it's on March12th of 2021. And then we watched it. So the sound design, whichnormally, you know, me, I don't notice that much.

Yeah. The sound design was really cool. I hate for this one, inmy opinion. Totally. It was like, there were really cool placeswhere images were overlaid and there are places where like thesound was overlaid here. Uh, like as a scene was wrapping the soundfrom the next scene was coming in. I just really liked the way thatthat all played together.

I didn't know what the technical terms are, that for that it wasalmost acting as if it was a character in the room. It was makingnoises that were, were helping tell the story and it would stop andstart with bangs and other loud noises or flicking of lightswitches. That kind of stuff. That was really cool.

I completely agree. And I think that like a little pretentious,but that's what puts it apart from your more traditional horrorthemes? I don't think that the story is. Terribly unique. Likeit's, uh, a couple camp in the middle of a farmer's property andthey're told to leave. It's a little bit Wolf creaky in thatsense.

And then when their car won't start, they walk to a house to seeif they can borrow their phone. It's a little house of a thousand.Corpsey because the elderly woman living in this house, uh, sheknows a guy that can help them out. You don't need to call AAA AAAwould take two hours. I know it. Yeah, no, the first, like, it'sdefinitely one of those horror movies where you're like, how coolno, nobody thinks that you wouldn't make yourself comfortable.

I found myself saying that a lot. Another thing I foundinteresting about this is the dynamic between our leads here. Sowe've got salmon Riley, anybody who listens to us with any kind ofregularity will know that I am always judging the men and talkingabout what assholes they are. Sure. Okay. In this situation, I feltreally sorry for Sam Riley was a bitch.

No, I, she was making his life awful. His life was alreadypretty hard because Sam who's played by Sawyer Spielberg. He callshimself an, a waiter actor. She considered him an actor waiter. Heis just having trouble getting good gigs as an actor. And he's saidhe's also between waiting job. That's true. He's just doing prettybad.

Honestly, I felt like that was probably the best part of hislife. Like the whole dynamic in the way that she was just Kelly hashigh cholesterol. He can't, he can't be eating, uh, any sort of redmeat. So it was pretty funny because I didn't watch this one withSam, but I was thinking to myself like Sam has really highcholesterol.

And we're just going to say that better, but veryunsuccessfully. Right? So this isn't like the situation where Rileyactually had restricted his diet, but I found myself thinking, wow.So if Sam had acquiesced and actually said like, yeah, I'll stopeating this and stopping this and make my cholesterol go down.

Then I guess I pretty much would have been her. It shows thatthey, at least she cares about them, which I think is very nice.And she, Oh, see, I, I, I felt completely different about thedynamic there. I felt like she was Loveless and controlling. He hasno autonomy in the relationship. He is very unhappy.

They're both actually quite, I'd say they're both miserable, butshe is like, Mean, and not respectful does not give a shit abouthis opinion is just mean plenty. You've said so much. I want totalk about her as an actor though. Marlin BARR. I think she does apretty great job. She's a Swedish actress. She did a great jobplaying a bitch based in LA.

I don't know any of the other things that she's done. She was onthe CBS show called bowl, which I've never heard of. Don't know howlong that went. And she was also in top dog as a receptionist,hoping to see more of her because they think she did a really greatjob. I do agree though, this relationship's not good.

It's, it's, it's an odd situation. When we enter this house of,uh, Karen played by Barbara Kingsley. Absolutely. Bizarre andinfatuated so good with Sam. Like this is where the movie setsitself apart. That's why I brought up Wolf Creek and I thoughthospitals and corpses it isn't those movies. Like the story may bethe same, but the way they approach it is completely different.

It's a little surreal and the way they shoot it. And the sounddefinitely kind of assists in that even the way that Karen paysattention to Sam and is ignoring Riley throughout this and well,and I think. Um, the dynamic of their relationship is part of whatmakes this situation as bad for them as it does.

Because if Sam went into the situation, a happy fella who wasreally in a good relationship, I do not think he would haveresponded positively to like, Oh, look at this. Woman's letting meeat meat and cupcakes. This lady's really nice. I want to hang outwith this old lady. She's like a really nice mom behavior in thestate of the house.

Like that's where it's like, they're just like fucking neonwarning signs. Why would you enter it to a house where someone islike preparing meat and using the refrigerator as like an openrefrigerator is an air conditioning unit. When it's got all thisfood in it, like it was disgusting. There's this scary 1970s TVplan Popeye.

So creepy. I dug into pop by for those that don't know the namefreaks me out when, like you just say Popeye, the sailor. And it,it kind of rolls off the tongue of the sailor man, but he's got apop eye. His is like popped out. That's a weird character and thatkept digging. Apparently Popeye's father. Did you know this name ispoop deck happy?

Well, the poop deck is a part of the shadow. Just bizarre,happy. It's just a scary world that this man, and it is a scaryworld. Thank you. And, and, and then we add ourselves, uh, goonieplayed by James bred, played by Jamie Bradley. Yeah. What is, is hefrom something that we know, you know, this is his second thingever.

He was in loud places in 2017. This is his second role ever.He's he's, um, brain damaged. Uh, well, not, Nope, his own doing inthe beginning of this interaction, we're told that he got kicked inthe head by a horse throughout dinner. He just sips through like along, uh, I would say crazy Strava, the straws, not crazy.

It has no curls. It's just a long tube. It's like a cathetertube that he's using to drink what may be milk and Jesus, man, thisin that now it's Texas chainsaw massacre. Now it's just that. Butlike the world is so strange. And is it even more strange is thefact that they don't panic and leave. Right. And I think to me,that's an overt statement about like the world slash relationshipin which they're living is so fucking bad that this doesn't evenseem that much worse.

Sam, Sam seems to be really enjoying this communication withKaren and her hospitality. He's eating the meat. And then when Petedoesn't show up after an hour, the guy who is set out to help themjump their car, they just decide to spend the night in this fuckingold, scary lady's house with her. They're like weird brain damagedson.

Yeah, no, no, thanks. Absolutely not. There's like a really longsplit screen shower scene where we're Sam is like jerking off inthe shower. You get to see you so gross and weirdly they're in someramp. Like what? I mean, there's a scene earlier where they're inthe tent and they both were a bit too distracted to successfullymake love with each other, but Debra did a really good job.

This thing looks beautiful and it is definitely like art houseyleaning. I didn't need to see like some casual semen hitting thebottom of a shower. I didn't really need that. No, but I think itreally all adds to the, just like the, the sleeves of this play hognarrative dissonance of this movie. Like nothing feels right.

Everything about it is off. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Um, and you know,things really, it's already a horrific situation and we're justkind of getting started. Ah, Oh yeah. Things get really, reallybad. And Byron here is something that I would like to pitch to you.What's that? I feel like I really only want to do limited.

Oh, I don't want to spoil the whalers. No, this is just a, it'sa fun bit of a Shyamalan and I really don't want to fuck it up foryou. Yeah. I'm with you. I just, I want to mention a couple ofthings briefly. We didn't say that Riley's character is a botanist.We didn't talk about the fact that this community was ravished bysomething similar to ergot, which is a fungus growing in wheat thatthe cows eat.

It's not like a mad cow disease, is that it's just like asickness, right? I think so. Yeah. And it is a fictional disease. Idid look it up. Yeah. The disease in the, in the movie is, but it'sbased on, gosh, we have Karen telling them that, you know, theyused to be one of the biggest farms in the County and now they haveto trade to get their meat, blah, blah, blah, which, yeah.

And, and there are signs that the community may have been moreaffected by this then. They lead on a Rooney. And I think that, Imean, that might be where I want to leave it. It's just, I'm, I'mgood with that. Cause I really don't want this to get ruined foranybody. I, this movie, if you look it up online, which I don'treally recommend you do, I think you should just go watch it.

Absolutely. People either love it or hate it. Like it is a verydivisive film. And typically when a film is divisive, I'm morefrequently fall on the hating end than I do on the loving end. So Iwas to be honest, kind of expecting that. And when I watched thebeginning, I'm like, what the fuck is this? And then I keptwatching and I'm like, okay, this is kind of some Lynch vibes toit.

And it even has, I would say some tusk vibes to it. Spielbergson, you know, I don't think he was ritually abused because he'sreally good actor. He doesn't seem messed up. He seems like a greatactor. I would like to see him in more things. Actually think allof the leads did a great job. Do you know that you'll listen, Karenare married in real life.

We didn't even talk about ULAs but, uh, I didn't know that Idon't know that we should either. Cause I think that's spoilery butyou'll listen, Karen married real life. I do like that. It's nice.Yeah. People work together. What it's going to have to be a hell ofa second half of the year. If this doesn't make it high in my top10, at the end of the year, the top 13 were spooky.

Sorry, top 13. Thanks. But I would stick with it making it mytop 10 too. I think it's going to, it's going to be up there. Thisone, I am going to rewatch for sure. With Sam. I think he wouldlike it quite a bit. Yeah. In fact, I am going to try and watch itwith him on the coast. Be a fun, spooky coast, flick honeydew.

It was a sleeper for me. I didn't even really want to watch it.When by in fact, Byron, I sent you a text message and said,everybody fucking hates this movie. You sure. We want to watch, youdid say that. And this is the third time I've pitched it to you.No, and I, I really resisted, but Byron, I'm glad you held yourground because this was a kick-ass film.

I give honeydew 8.3 face wrap bandages. Yeah, honeydew again,not a terribly original concept, but I think where, where it reallystands out is the production and the writing, the way that theyapproach the broke down car, unexpected sleepover type situationfilms. I think that this really does something different.

I think that all the performances were spot on, or there's not aweak link in the cast. I, again, like I like this film. I, what didyou rate it? I always blank out when you say that. Oh, Joe pantotrace and that is 24, 8.3. Okay. Um, I liked it. I liked it. Ididn't like it as much as you, but I, I definitely am glad that Iwatched for the ending alone.

I think that this film is standout and something you need tosee. And for those reasons I give honeydew. 6.8 black tippedfingers. Yeah. What was that? I assume that that was like gangreneor something. It was gangrene caused by the disease that fuckinggross. All right guys. So, uh, after Kelly called gangrene fuckinggross, we ended our phone conversation and forgot to end the showshe's over on the coast.

So now I guess I will just, uh, do it myself, done a milliontimes. You can do this Byron and those are thoughts on honeydew,which is available now on VOD. Why don't you check it out? And onceyou have, let me and let us know, what do you think. Be great. Wehave social media at Friday on Twitter and Instagram.

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